Sure! What could possibly go wrong?
To be honest, things went wrong because the person who knew how to keep the piece died, so… nationalists rose to power (they didn’t rebrand communism though, so most got onboard the loony train thinking this is about communism and who is against it), and that was about all that was needed in a powder keg like the Balkans… a lot of war time profiteering as well, some people got very rich during those days… blood money, sure, but it didn’t seem to bother them. Some of them are still in power, or their children.
Bottom line, none of them are communists, period. They’re thieves and killers.
Why is it, every time some regime claims to be communist, they are never really communist?
Because it sounds conceptually nice to good people, but selfish people know that without proper transparency and checks, it’s very easy to consolidate power with it.
So the bad people get the support of good people and then exploit that flaw to do what they want instead of what is good.
The reason why it worked perfectly here, in the Balkans, was that Tito never actually lied to the people (OK, that’s an understatement, lol 😂, but in general, he did have the people’s best interests in mind)… so, everyone just thought that their leaders are actually being honest with them and that the other guy is at fault 🤷… it was easy to be honest… it was only after they were tried it became apparent that the only thing their leaders had in mind was money and power, nothing more… but, by then, it was too late… lives were lost, people’s lives were shattered… it was really sad to be honest… when everyone realized that they fought a war for nothing…
It WAS as close to communism (actually socialism… though yes, the party was called a communist party and all that, but in reality, the name didn’t really reflect the ideals of the party at the time, the name stuck for the sake of the Stallinists that were in quite large numbers and Tito and others were just trying to balance things out, since they needed some of those people to run the country and not turn their backs on them… some people were very cross with Tito when he turned his back on Stalin in the 50s, he didn’t need to iritate them further by changing the name of the party) as you can possibly get at the time. No textbook representation of a social or economical system is 100% accurate to what the books say… just like democracy (which is basically anything but democracy at this point) is flawed everywhere.
The perfect system doesn’t exist, but you can strive to make it better and serve the people, which is exactly what we DON’T have nowadays. Back then… to be honest, yes, it mostly served the people.
Ah, the old merge and commit genocide.
Seen this before, we don’t need a sequel.
merge and commit
Are we talking fast-forward or squash merges?
Let’s rebase, for the fun of it…
But they don’t need SQL.
Squash, definitely squash.
Bonus points if the different branches are all large, have a decent amount of overlap, and rely on different revision dependencies. And pushed through with minimal review or oversight.
And then wonder why nothing works…
git push origin main --force
Yolo
Who do we git blame ?
Let’s just blame the Nazis to avoid making anyone too upset.
What does the CI/CD pipeline look like for this?
Genocide in Eastern Europe? Never! Never I tell you!
That was after Tito died. He never would have let something like that happen if he was still alive.
Ummm… Got news for you…
Hey, I never said he was a saint. Plus this was pre WWII, partisans were already being recruited and yes, they hated Germans… because Gremans hated Slavs. You know what the Nazi plan was? One, eliminate Jews, two, eliminate gypsies, three, elimites slavs. We were on the elimination list, no doubt there. Just because we weren’t immidiately exterminated doesn’t mean our turn wouldn’t have came after the Nazis were done with the previous two on the list. You know how many slavs died in labour camps, doing Nazi bidding? My guess is, Tito did this to try and scare the Nazis away from the Balkans… can’t say for certain, but I do know that he was the leader of a federation with over 6 different nations in it, he never once showed pereference or hate for one or another. Sure, things needed to be balanced, so sometimes one came first, others second, third, etc., but in general, he really did try and treat everyone as equal.
Oh wow… You’re unironically a Tito fan…
Dude, this wasn’t before WWII, this was after the end of the war. Around 175,000 people whose families had lived there for a couple hundred years and spoke German for historical reasons were ethnically cleansed from Yugoslavia.
A few hundred thousand people had to flee the country and walk to Germany or otherwise make their way to places like North America.
Sure Tito wasn’t Hitler, but he definitely walked in his footsteps.
Sorry, I meant after the end… got mixed up (it was late).
Dude, this wasn’t before WWII, this was after the end of the war. Around 175,000 people whose families had lived there for a couple hundred years and spoke German for historical reasons were ethnically cleansed from Yugoslavia.
Hm, wonder why someone who spoke German on a teritory occupied by the Germans during WWII would be cleansed from that place 🤔…
A few hundred thousand people had to flee the country and walk to Germany or otherwise make their way to places like North America.
People hated Germans after WWII. My guess is, he was just trying to keep a clean slate, not let history repeat itself. There was enough bloodshed on the Balkans, it’s time for piece… and people speaking German RIGHT AFTER WWII in a place you’re trying to make into a federation and let everyone live in piece… yeah, I kinda get his reasoning.
Sure Tito wasn’t Hitler, but he definitely walked in his footsteps.
You didn’t live here, you have no idea how things were. It was nice, people had piece… not just bought piece, it was the true meaning of the word, something that hasn’t happened in centuries here. Agreed, that has to come at a cost, but the US does it every day and they rarely get backlash for it.
Sacrifices have to be made for the greater good. It’s that simple. This is true in any society. People that don’t agree with that society’s leaders and strategies can make problems for them. Why make their lives harder.
Anyone that busts Stalin’s balls that hard can be forgiven those rookie cleansing numbers. (/S)
Shit, Israel beat it by a factor of ten in just three months. (No /s)
In terms of geography, My secret weakness is how often I confuse Slovenia and Slovakia, solely because they share most of the letters in their name.
(I also have a similar problem with Armenia and Albania. Within the US, Mississippi and Missouri used to give me a lot of trouble when I was younger, too.)
congratulations, you might be dyslexic 👍
having grown up between slovenia and slovakia, i cant imagine mixing them up. they have such different vibes… :D
but yeah, i used to mix up liechtenstein and luxembourg…
I also have trouble crossing wires with the Balkans and the Baltics.
still hurts after all these years
Capitalism thrives on divide and conquer especially socialist states. Same playbook as forever.
Bosnia: “Ooh, can we go to the beach?”
Croatia: “Haha, fuck no!”
Whipped up on my phone in 5 minutes
You think that’s bad, check out Chile.
They can have Neum, as a treat.
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Pain.
I’m sure they had no idea what they were doing when they randomly circled the Balkans and presupposed that there was no problem with their proposal.
Yea, prime c/thatsthejoke material.
Tell him it’s a great idea! 👍
It WAS a great idea…
As an older Millennial, I keep thinking Yugoslavia still exists. And the US 9/11 attacks happened last year.
In my eyes, Jurassic Park from the 90s is still so realistic looking. A lot of these films today look like shit.
It’s because of the crappy colour grading they do to merge shot footage with cgi effects. Jurassic Park holds up because it’s from an era of cinema where they didn’t do that grungy Blue-grey shit.
I recently watched ‘robot dreams’ good animation movie from 2023, setting is 90’s new york. It was so strage seeing the twin towers in the background during the entire movie. But then i realized the new generation has no first hand 9/11 experience and would probably dont even notice.
That just hit me in the olds. Kids today are grown ups that can drink in America and it was after 9/11
I’m reminded I had a classmate who was Yugoslavian.
At the time I had no idea what was going on in the world at the time.
Yugoslavia 2 isn’t on my 2024 bingo card, but if they make the flag look cool…
How did Tito keep the peace? He wasn’t magical. You would think he successors could have done the same.
He imprisioned the nationalists on Goli Otok. No nationalists, no religion, no problems.
Bread, circus, jobs for everyone, cheap housing, cheap food. And suicide the loud critics and trouble makers in the back of course.
RIP HOI4 Huge-oslavia strat.
I heard someone say there’s a North Montenegro now. Is that true?
They probably meant North Macedonia. Macedonia changed it’s name since there is also Macedonia in Greece which is presumably the southern part of Macedonia. There’s a lot of places like that in Europe. Usually remnants of old kingdoms. Tyrol is a region encompassing part of Northern Italy and Western Austria for example. Bohemia is another example which historically was a lot bigger than the region of Czech nowadays.
