Yes this is a Telegram client and yes it will break the Lemmy’s downvote world record but I still find this one very nice and “actively” maintained. There are not many good Telegram FOSS forks without Google integrations and similar stuff out there.

          • Semperverus
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            The options are basically:

            Matrix if you want a Discord-like experience

            XMPP if you want a whatsapp/google talk like experience (both of those are based on XMPP)

            Signal if you want hyper-secure chat and don’t mind some mild inconveniences in things like registration or desktop apps.

            All three support or can support E2EE.

        • @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.mlOP
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          38 months ago

          They’re not shady. They just don’t want to lose the market share and I think if they made Telegram really secure, there’d be even more illegal stuff on it and the government wouldn’t like it.

            • @timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
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              18 months ago

              How is it “shady” to not want to lose market share and keep illegal stuff off of it?

              You could argue it’s “shitty” (perhaps, but it is their servers after all) but I don’t find it shady.

              • @blindbunny@lemmy.ml
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                18 months ago

                How is it “shady” to not want to lose market share and keep illegal stuff off of it?

                Market share shouldn’t be a concern with encrypted chat. If it is then I don’t trust it.

                If you’re making an encrypted chat, you’re going to have illegal things on it. If only the chat owners have the keys then that shouldn’t be the server owners concern.

    • Semperverus
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      28 months ago

      I would strongly recommend libaxolotl/OMEMO over OTR, far stronger algorithm.