.world definitely has a problem distinguishing between Tankies and leftists. I’ve literally had a guy argue with me that tankie and Bernie Bro were interchangeable because, “definitions change.”
Well I love Bernie. When he told me he wasn’t running in 2024, and he wanted me to support Kamala, I listened. And I’ve never been called a tankie. Maybe it comes down to individual differences.
I also voted for Kamala and I also haven’t been called a tankie (at least yet). But I’ve seen multiple liberals on .world call leftists tankies, often without understanding the meaning. At first, I found it very strange, since I’d only ever seen that term used in leftist circles. It made more sense when I realized they picked it up from .ml, which, to be fair, had a lot of fucking tankies.
I was once called a tankie just for critiquing the fact that Kamala didn’t clearify her positions on her campaign website, even though I voted for her anyway the fact that I didn’t show unquestioning loyalty to the party makes me a tankie… Wait a minute… Demanding unquestioning loyalty to the party… Where have I heard that before?
No, I run a left wing community thats explicitly left wing in nature. Liberalism is right wing, so naturally we arent supportive. Furthermore my community tends to lean more libertarian left (workers democracy) and anarchist so we arent a big fan of liberal electoralism.
Once again I still voted for Kamala, however that doesn’t disqualify me from critiquing underlying electoral systems. Fundamentally I belive Liberal Democracy is little more than democracy for the capitalist class.
That’s because nobody is called “tankie” in real life. No one has called me a “tankie” either. The term’s contemporary usage is a creature of social media. It’s a dumb, cringey online meme.
Ask a dozen people what “tankie” means and you’ll get a dozen conflicting answers. It’s a floating signifier for dismissing those to one’s political left. It’s a thought-terminating cliché rhetorical device.
The arrogance of assuming that anyone who didn’t vote or who voted third party, just automatically owe your party their vote.
The entrenched two-party system has done more to cripple democracy in America than any other factor, and yet it’s so pervasive that y’all whip each other into line trying to shame anyone who tries to break free of it.
The only way the dems could have won in 2024 is if they did what is popular with their base. This applies to literally every election. You should be furious that they lost to Donald fucking Trump twice because they thought they could win while enacting policies they knew would decrease turnout.
They have their own polling, they know there’s not a bunch of voters who just hate tiktok and will vote for tax credits to buy healthcare for first-generation college grads who run a small business in an under-served community for 3 years, but won’t vote for free healthcare.
No messaging could have made genocide in gaza popular, it’s not the people telling the democrats to stop giving Israel fucking bombs who made facilitating genocide unpopular. The only people who could have changed whether Palestine hurt the dems or helped them were the dems. They decided unlimited support for a genocidal settler colonial state was more important than winning.
Unpopular policy decreases turnout. That’s just how democracy works. The narrative of blaming the voters just serves to distract from the only people who could have changed the outcome of the last election and will be the only ones who can change the outcome of future lessons.
If Trump runs for a third term, and the democrats run on building the wall and defunding the government, the same fucking thing will happen.
6 months in and Liberals are still trying to blame their election loss on the left.
Ja, this meme is tripe. Tankies are the Lemmy bogeyman, used the same as ‘woke’ by the right.
What are you talking about? It only mentions democrats, republicans, and tankies.
Tankie is what centrist liberals call everyone to the left of them
No, that’s what I call people who claim to be left but then make excuses for Russia, China.
What do you call people who claim to be to the left but make excuses for Canada and the genocidal Democratic Party?
China is the lesser evil.
Work both ways
I’ve never been called a tankie, and neither have any of my friends or girlfriends. And we’re all communists.
Maybe you’re being called a tankie because you’re a radical centrist.
.world definitely has a problem distinguishing between Tankies and leftists. I’ve literally had a guy argue with me that tankie and Bernie Bro were interchangeable because, “definitions change.”
Well I love Bernie. When he told me he wasn’t running in 2024, and he wanted me to support Kamala, I listened. And I’ve never been called a tankie. Maybe it comes down to individual differences.
I also voted for Kamala and I also haven’t been called a tankie (at least yet). But I’ve seen multiple liberals on .world call leftists tankies, often without understanding the meaning. At first, I found it very strange, since I’d only ever seen that term used in leftist circles. It made more sense when I realized they picked it up from .ml, which, to be fair, had a lot of fucking tankies.
Ohhh, so it’s the tankies who are responsible for this. That makes sense.
That reminds me of how Israel tells everyone that killing people is part of the Jewish identity, and then complains when people believe them
Biden and Harris sent litteral tanks to genocide arabs in gaza
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You’re a tankie, you voted for someone who sent tanks to a genocidal regime, that makes you a tankie.
Now you can’t say you’ve never been called a tankie.
I’ve only ever been called a tankie by a tankie who was making some kind of point
But you have been called a tankie
Which is pretty suspicious honestly
I was once called a tankie just for critiquing the fact that Kamala didn’t clearify her positions on her campaign website, even though I voted for her anyway the fact that I didn’t show unquestioning loyalty to the party makes me a tankie… Wait a minute… Demanding unquestioning loyalty to the party… Where have I heard that before?
Meanwhile kamala was sending litteral tanks to israel lmao
Yeah but caring about that apparently makes me a “single issue voter” and a “tankie”, liberals are absolute jokes
Don’t you, like, run a hate community targeted at her?
No, I run a left wing community thats explicitly left wing in nature. Liberalism is right wing, so naturally we arent supportive. Furthermore my community tends to lean more libertarian left (workers democracy) and anarchist so we arent a big fan of liberal electoralism.
Wow, I wish I didn’t care who the president was. I wanna stop fearing for my girlfriends’ lives.
Yeah, fearing for the life of loved ones should only be for Palestinians, right?
Refusing to vote is how you end up with the worst arrogant politicians who dont care at all about their constituents.
Once again I still voted for Kamala, however that doesn’t disqualify me from critiquing underlying electoral systems. Fundamentally I belive Liberal Democracy is little more than democracy for the capitalist class.
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I’ve got bad news for you…
Isnt radical centrist an oxymoron?
Yeah, supporting workers and dictators at the same time is pretty oxymoronic. But it’s perfectly balanced, as all things should be
I don’t think you know what communism actually is.
You too, hun.
That’s because nobody is called “tankie” in real life. No one has called me a “tankie” either. The term’s contemporary usage is a creature of social media. It’s a dumb, cringey online meme.
Hmmmmmmmmmm… nah. It’s from the 1950s. They didn’t have 9gag back then
Again:
But also: JFK Files Reveal CIA Role in the 1956 Hungarian Uprising | The tankies were right
So you’re a tankie in real life?
Have you stopped beating your wife?
Ask a dozen people what “tankie” means and you’ll get a dozen conflicting answers. It’s a floating signifier for dismissing those to one’s political left. It’s a thought-terminating cliché rhetorical device.
Tankies dont say slava ukranini!
I never even heard the word tankie outside of reddit / Lemmy lmao
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The arrogance of assuming that anyone who didn’t vote or who voted third party, just automatically owe your party their vote.
The entrenched two-party system has done more to cripple democracy in America than any other factor, and yet it’s so pervasive that y’all whip each other into line trying to shame anyone who tries to break free of it.
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The only way the dems could have won in 2024 is if they did what is popular with their base. This applies to literally every election. You should be furious that they lost to Donald fucking Trump twice because they thought they could win while enacting policies they knew would decrease turnout.
They have their own polling, they know there’s not a bunch of voters who just hate tiktok and will vote for tax credits to buy healthcare for first-generation college grads who run a small business in an under-served community for 3 years, but won’t vote for free healthcare.
No messaging could have made genocide in gaza popular, it’s not the people telling the democrats to stop giving Israel fucking bombs who made facilitating genocide unpopular. The only people who could have changed whether Palestine hurt the dems or helped them were the dems. They decided unlimited support for a genocidal settler colonial state was more important than winning.
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Unpopular policy decreases turnout. That’s just how democracy works. The narrative of blaming the voters just serves to distract from the only people who could have changed the outcome of the last election and will be the only ones who can change the outcome of future lessons.
If Trump runs for a third term, and the democrats run on building the wall and defunding the government, the same fucking thing will happen.
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