Best part is when this sucker unscrews from the port and comes off with the cable:
Ugh this stresses me out just thinking about it
Excuse me, I have a 3070 feeding into one of these bad boys.
why??
Poverty homies rise up, also I won’t turn down a free tv. I upcycled a few for extra monitors.
That doesn’t explain why you feed it with a 3070
All 3 HDMI ports are broken. That’s why it was gotten rid of, so I chain adapters with cables I have. Works like a gem. All of my monitors are upcycled. There is so much e-waste because people don’t use adapters.
hearing this makes me want to visit my local e-waste facility
wow that’s one hell of a dumpster find! even with those ports dead, a 3070 is worth like what, half a kidney?
nice!
I used to have to, when the monitor does not have any modern ports, you have to get creative with adapters.
Source: Me with my own 1050ti stuck into an optiplex build and early 2000s monitor because I was broke
That’s one advantage to living in the 21st century: computer “bone yards” and trash-picked parts are stupidly high quality “trash” compared to decades ago.
Pff. I’ll be fine. I have a Hercules graphics card.
See? No twisty things.
I can still play games, right?
yeah some games
I remember my friend had a computer with a Hercules card back then and he could play like 3 games on it. Everything else required EGA, CGA and later VGA (although I think he had replaced the computer by then).
With mangohud, just in case
I still have a DVI monitor connected to my main pc, so it’s not that much of a retro problem for me
I like DVI. I prefer it most of the time.
I like the screw in connector because I don’t have to worry about it falling out of the PC or monitor, and it is more robust, less likely to be pulled/bent/broken.
Unfortunately, even monitor vendors don’t seem to agree that DVI was/is good, and I’ve seen a lot of displays shipping without it recently. GPU makers have entirely gone to displayport/HDMI. It’s the end of an era, as far as I’m concerned.
I’ve switched almost entirely to DP, since I can’t get DVI anything anymore. I don’t hate DP. I like it more than the friction fit HDMI which is prone to pulling itself out of the port for no good reason just as your opponent is about to come around the corner and all you can do is stare at yourself in the black mirror that your monitor has become and listen in horror as fartmaster69420 frags you again, bragging about it and telling you that you suck, and how he does unspeakable things to your mother over VC in his prepubescent voice.
Anyways. I miss DVI.
VGA has outlived DVI… I can buy a new monitor with VGA and get a new VGA cable at almost any store … DVI is hard to find anything but a DVI to VGA adapter
Sad but true.
Would you hate me if I said I think the correct screw in port won… mutters in hating DVI for no good reason
You’re entitled to that opinion. I don’t hate you for it. I would be lying to say I understood.
DVI could operate in three modes, either DVI-A, which was basically just VGA adapted to the DVI connector, DVI-D, which is the primary digital mode, then there was dual link which doubled the bandwidth for the DVI digital mode, allowing higher resolutions and higher refresh rates.
By comparison HDMI can only do a single digital link.
DVI is great IMO.
I am not going to lie, while I appreciate the 3 modes that is the part that I think I ended up hating, not that it could do that but that so many times you would get either a cable or a port that would only accept -a or more often -d made it incredably hard.
I can also appreciate that on paper DVI is amazing and should still be arround, (also Displayport should be more popular than HDMI … HDMI should be the port in the grave) it does not mean I do not have this irrational hatred for DVI that makes no sense at all…
I’ve recently plugged and unplugged a lot of monitors, and the way DP keeps itself attached it with those little claws, and you have to push a button to release it. But when there’s 4 monitors plugged into the same GPU, you can’t access those buttons. The struggle was real.
In comparison the DVI connector just needed a screwdriver
I’ve never had an HDMI cable fall out of anything.
I’m trying to figure out what this person is doing that would lead to an HDMI cable, or any cable really, getting pulled out of the port on the monitor or the computer while gaming. The only situations i can think of would be more of a hinderance to playing the game than the monitor blanking out, like the laptop or desktop falling off a desk or something.
I was mostly being fatecious for effect/comedy.
But working IT support, I’ve had users complain that their computer doesn’t work, then travel to their location and find the HDMI connection fell out.
I’ve wasted countless hours troubleshooting a plug. It’s a big reason I like the latch on DP and I prefer DVI when possible. No user error with things just getting unplugged.
I use DP for my computer, HDMI for all my TVs, and it works fine. I don’t make it a habit to mess with the cables, for laptops I tend to try to use docks so I’m only plugging in one cable while I’m stationary, and my displays are always connected to the dock.
The example rant I provided had no basis in reality. Just something I came up with because I thought it would be funny. The only point that had any actual real world relevance is the fact that HDMI can become unplugged if not properly seated, or if it’s pulled at all, or if the friction fit is generally loose from wear&tear. That’s all. I’m just trying to be funny beyond that.
Either way, I’m not going to tell you how to live your life; so if you prefer HDMI, that’s fine. You use what you want to use. I’m not about to tell you that your choices are invalid because I don’t prefer it. Your decision doesn’t affect me, so you can do as you wish. I won’t try to change your mind.
Have a good day.
Oh dude, you totally misinterpreted my intent. I’m a DisplayPort only household. I’ve got DP cables going from PCs and docks into KVMs, and from KVMs to way too many monitors, and all of them are DisplayPort with active adapters when necessary. I refuse to buy any cable that isn’t DisplayPort at this point. I guess except for my TV but that shit is in the wall and if rats start tugging on that shit or the TV falls off the wall we got bigger problems.
I was just genuinely confused about the apparent frequency of these cable mishaps, like monitor video cables are as frequently ripped out as n64/psx/ps2 controllers lol.
You obviously don’t use HDMI the same way I’ve seen it used by some people.
I do IT support for a living and I’ve had a non-zero number of tickets where I literally have to go over and plug in someone’s display because they managed to disconnect it.
At least they had screws? I dont trust HDMI or even worse USB-C. Still using VGA monitors with adapters, never broke a single plug.
I sort of miss the screws too but it’s so much better when a cable accidentally gets yanked and it just comes right out instead of transmitting the force into whatever it’s attached to.
Tell that to the USB ports on my laptop.
I’m still waiting for the other shoe to drop on USB-C/Thunderbolt. Don’t get me wrong - I think it’s a massive improvement for standardization and peripheral capability everywhere. But I have a hard-used Thinkpad that’s on and off the charging cable all day, constantly getting tugged in every possible direction. I’m afraid the physical port itself is going to give up long before the rest of the machine does. I’m probably going to need Louis Rossmann level skills to re-solder it when the time comes.
Edit: I’m also wondering if the sudden fragility of peripheral connections (e.g. headphones, classic iPod, USB mini/micro) and the emergence of the RoHS standard (lead-free solder) is not a coincidence.
On my Thinkpad the ports where both soldered to the mobo, unlike some random other USB daughterboard. Really annoying, on my T430 the port is a separate piece and can be easily replaces with a cable.
But no, USB-c is pretty tough for me, when done right. But its still too small for no reason in Laptops.
do you live ON train tracks? how often is shit just falling out around you? usually a pretty cozy fit on most things imo 🤔
do you like the display port push tab? I feel like many of those are a PITA for real
Hate it. Though there is one that’s worse.
The mini-DP retention clip. There seems to be either wide and narrow variations or simply on-/off-spec variants.
Those clips just jam right in the back plate of the video card.
My display port cable has a clip that you have to press to remove.
Good news, USB-C has two formats with screws: 1 on either side like VGA or 1 on top. Though I’ve never seen them in real life.
Why are you using VGA when DVI-D exists? Or Displayport for that matter.
Because VGA used to be a standard and all monitors I had lying around are VGA only
Kudos for not just trashing them.
Why should I? Full HD and working well, no reason to do so, new displays are 100€+ which is freaking expensive for that improvement
Because there’s plenty of used monitors to be had out there that have DVI on them in some capacity for very reasonable prices.
For instance I just purchased 4 x 24inch Samsung monitors for $15 USD each.
All those new video standards are pointless. VGA supports 1080p at 30Hz just fine, anything more than that is unnecessary. Plus, VGA is easier to implement that HDMI or Displayport, keeping prices down. Not to mention the connector is more durable (well, maybe DVI is comparable in terms of durability)
I think you are speaking on some very different use cases than most people.
Really, what “normal people” use cases are there for a resolution higher than 1080p? It’s perfectly fine for writing code, editing documents, watching movies, etc. If you are able to discern the pixels, it just means you’re sitting too close to your monitor and hurting your eyes. Any higher than 1080p and, at best you don’t notice the difference, at worst you have to use hacks like UI Scaling or non-native resolution to get UI elements to display at a reasonable size.
You had 30Hz when I read your comment. Which is why I said what I said. Still, there’s a lot of benefit for having a higher refresh rate. As far as user comfort goes.
Okay, fair point, sorry for ninja-editing that.
Shaper text for reading more comfortably and viewing photos at nearly full resolution. You don’t have to discern individual pixels to benefit from either of these. And small UI elements like thumbnails can actually show some detail.
VGA is analog. You ever look at an analog-connected display next to an identical one that’s connected with HDMI/DP/DVI? Also, a majority of modern systems are running at around 2-4 * 1080p, and that’s hardly unnecessary for someone who spends 8+ hours in front of one or more monitors.
I look at my laptop’s internal display side-by-side with an external VGA monitor at my desk nearly every day. Not exactly a one-to-one comparison, but I wouldn’t say one is noticeably worse than the other. I also used to be under the impression that lack of error correction degrades the image quality, but in reality it just doesn’t seem to be perceptible, at least over short cables with no strong sources of interference.
When I worked IT for a call center I had to deal with so many of these that I ended up only screwing one side. Still held firmly in place, less work.
You have to tighten the loose one to loosen the tight one. My fingers hurt just looking at it
Amen to this…or just say fuck it and break out the screwdriver
You mean that thing I set down right there but has somehow transitioned into a different dimension?
You also got ADHD?
Absolutely!!
You can only find a screwdriver by first releasing your intent to use it.
you a director yet? that’s gandalf level wisdom
Pretty sure the little slit was so that you could use a flathead screwdriver. Had to do that a couple times
those slots were near useless.
We referred to those blank expansion slot metal pieces as “keys.” They were useful lockpicks.
Then one side of the driver notch shears off
TIL!!
… aaaaaand there goes the infinitesimally tiny nut inside the case
clatter click … oh no…
I learned not to do that with the system plugged in. Only lost one expansion slot somehow.
i swear every time you think you tighten one of these evenly, they just end up like this!
also, both stripped somehow?
This happens because the connector is at an angle. Since it’s at an angle, the screw presses against the side and jams itself in place. All you have to do is tilt the connector the other direction and the tight screw loosens right up. Easy peasy.
This would have been really good for me to know about 20 years ago.
The actual retro problem was when those tighty boys would start unscrewing the port instead of themselves
lol I came across a dvi cable plugged into a crappy old lcd the other day and this is exactly what happened
Don’t forget fucking bent pins… Urrggghhhhh
Can’t forget about leaving pins behind cause you pulled on an angle or worse, it was owned by a smoker and gunk built up on everything.
No worries, just eject the lead from a cheap Bic mechanical pencil, and use the tip to carefully bend 'em back into shape.
That’s brilliant! I just have a tiny pair of tweezers and needle-nose pliers.
Can someone explain what is this to people born in this century.
How did you get on my lawn?
It’s how we connected monitors to our PCs. Before I had DVI I used that to connect my desktop to my monitor. My old laptop had port but now they have HDMI.
Just to tag along, the VGA signal is analog where DVI, HDMI, and DisplayPort are digital
DVI had an analog variant as well. I’m obligated to say this because that cable compatibility confused the shit out of me at least once.
You had to check for pins above and below the wide “dash” shaped pin to know if it supported analog.
It’s a VGA connector, used for screens. You can still find them if you look hard enough.
look hard enough
Any box of chords in any basement, attic, or thrift store
Cords. A box of chords would be a radio, or a box of sheet music.
aight
I’ve heard there was a secret cord that david pulled and it pleased the lhord
Had some VGA cords stored away for almost 20 years now “just in case one day I need them”
Didn’t some camcorders have a VGA output? Think that’s why I kept them
Probably, but most i’ve seen are AV. I still use an old SUN monitor, so VGA is alive and well here
if you look hard enough
I think I have seen as many VGA cables as I did HDMI ones. I also have seen many people using adapters for the two standards. So I think they are still very common.
It’s a security cable so no one will steal your computer because a 65 lb monitor is friggin stuck to it.
It’s basically an analog version of an HDMI cable. Except no audio, only video.
It’s like the yellow RCA cable, but for computer monitors instead of TVs
Except it transmitted several times the resolution of an RCA cable
