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Oooooh edgy, very normal and not cult like!
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I’m not sure if I understand the points you are trying to make. Could you please elaborate? A) this meme is about records broken, not “wins.” A president winning a second term would not break any records. B) why wouldn’t Americans vote for a black woman? C) why would the thought of Americans electing a black women be “cult like?”
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Thank you for the detailed response!
I see now that you were responding to the title and not the content of the post.
To further round out my knowledge and understanding, could you please point me to additional information about Latinos moving further to the right, Harris’ popularity, and polling data showing her well behind Trump in key states?
I’m also curious to see examples of the American left refusing to acknowledge the potential of a second Trump term.
Thanks again for helping me understand.
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I’m sure this probably not the only premature problem you have
I’m don, not Dementia Don.
Just Trump again giving unwelcome kisses to his stage partner., but when women accuse him of the same thing conservatives don’t believe it. He’s showing you who he is.
He sure grabbed that flag by the pole.
Hold my beer.
Jajajajaja “laughs in Argentina Cristina Ladrona de Kirschner”
pretty sure other people have been convicted of crimes before. he is fantastically old though. maybe he got sent to juvie back in his childhood hometown of Bedrock and was the first convicted criminal!
pretty sure other people have been convicted of crimes before.
name one.
Al Capone
Technically, President Grant got pulled over, and taken into custody, in 1872 for “speeding on a horse within the city limits of Washington DC.” It was the third such ticket he was given in his life, the first two being in the early part of the 1860s when he was just a General. The cop tried to let him go, and Grant cited section 1983 of the federal code that had been passed a few months previously in 1871 that stated unequivocally that no one is above the law, not even a sitting president.
you didn’t need to but you did choose to preface this with “technically” which should have tipped you off that this really isn’t in the same arena.
No, but it is an excuse to share this article about that law.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html
This really means that Harlow v Fitzgerald should be overturned.
Hmm out of curiosity, what’s the current status of that law?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html
It’s still in the congressional record, but in 1874 an unnamed secretary, I believe had Southern Revisionist views, unilaterally revised the law, so it has been improperly copied into the Federal Register ever since.
Police immunity is another interesting angle I hadn’t thought of. I was thinking about whether it was relevant to the recent supreme Court ruling, maybe even some ammo for impeachment if they directly contradicted a law with their ruling.
There was a socialist candidate for president Eugene V. Debs, running from a prison cell in 1920
They shoulda specified felonies.
pretty sure my uncle got put away for felonies ages ago.
Is your uncle a former President of the United States who works at Nintendo?
no, he’a dead. throat cancer.
My condolences.
He may very well qualify as the person hated by the most people worldwide in his lifetime.
Hitler
World population in 1945 - 2.3 billion
World population in 2024 - 8.2 billion
I’m talking numbers, not percentages (although Trump might still have Hitler beat there as well, thanks to the internet).
I was born decades after Hitler died and I hate him.
Wait, just saw the lifetime thing
Anyways you’d be surprised by the amount of people uncaring of American politics in India and china, or even supporting trump.
People all over care about American politics. America keeps the Peoples Republic of China from invading the Republic of China, is helping Ukraine resist Russia, provides a lot of support for its allies
Different presidents alter American foreign policy
Last time Trump was ineffective. This time we worry that he may have more effective plans for holding power than last time, and the rest of the world worries about a weaker America
I’m specifically talking about while the person is still alive because once they’re dead, what you think of them is moot.
Political and depressing comment ahead, skip if you are just here for the laughs
Tap for spoiler
And if you let him he will be the person who have killed more Americans with his civil war.
Don’t forget the smallest inaugural crowds!
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Any other incumbent president had lost the election?
Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush, off the top of my head.
Poor Jimmy, great guy
He could have been a great guy, but instead chose violence and oppression while in office. Repeatedly.
How much must one repent to balance out spreading terror across the globe? No matter how committed he is to changing his legacy, he will never be able to take back the suffering he helped cause.
Ok meow Zedong at lemmygrad. We totally care what you think.
You don’t have to care what I think if you read and make an informed decision on your own. As it is, I suspect you didn’t bother to read the link?
No. I don’t read bullshit from lemmygrad.
How about some Bullshit from Hexbear instead?
After Nixon resigned in disgrace, America voted in a Democrat…and then booted him out and went back to Republicans for 12 years.
…yeah?
It doesn’t speak well to our decision making as a voting population.
Electoral* voting population
What do you vote in, other than elections?
Well that tends to happen when someone shows up saying “we don’t negotiate with terrorists” then proceeds to not only negotiate with terrorists, but conduct business with them in order to aid another militant group that congress wasn’t fond of,
In other words, giving [the enemy] aid and comfort.
Most recently, other than Trump, George HW Bush lost the election while incumbent. Prior to that it was Jimmy Carter.
The next most recent person to win the election but lose the popular vote was George W Bush, prior to that is was Harrison back in 1888.
Just hope he makes a repeat performance on that last point
Unfortunately losing the popular vote doesn’t mean he loses the election. Here’s to hoping he loses both.
He is 100% guaranteed to lose the popular vote by millions. Unfortunately, that doesn’t determine whether he wins the election.
The leftists should just stop pretending, write a Bible, and start worshipping whoever tells them they are special
On a scale of 1-10, with 1 being Inconsequential and 10 being Paramount, how important is hierarchy to the healthy functioning of a group?
I just don’t get this. Does the fact that Biden pulled off 4 months before election mean he was never a candidate? 🤔 With that logic, if Trump quits now he is again forgiven as the oldest one? So, whole this news would be bullshit?
Nope, Trump is his parties verified candidate which happens at the convention. Dems have not had their convention yet so Biden was not officially the candidate. Semantics, yes but technically true.
Thanks 4 the info, now I get it 😆 American poliitics r beautiful 🤯
The best kind of true.
That’s why reporters would say " presumptive nominee"
Plus I can’t recall if I’ve ever seen one of these parties entertain competition against an incumbent (or former president). In such cases, the party nomination is kinda/sorta a formality. This is why we have heard of zero alternative candidates from either the RNC or DNC.
Former presidents don’t normally run because they learn their lesson the first time they lose.
Trump was officially nominated by the RNC as their candidate. Biden hadn’t been nominated by the DNC yet, that was supposed to happen at the conference in a couple weeks. But now that he has pulled out, he will not be nominated and thus not be the official candidate.
Does the fact that Biden pulled off 4 months before election mean he was never a candidate?
Correct. If I won Beauty Queen last year and stated my intention to run again this year, but then withdrew before I officially entered, you can’t say I won. You also can’t say I lost, I never actually entered.
The difference is the RNC already had their convention. Trump is their official Nominee, no matter what else happens…
Other than after 9/11 when we were lied to about the war, Republicans haven’t won the popular vote in my lifetime.
They’ve also never won with anyone who isn’t Trump in 20 years.
Isn’t biden older though?
Yes but he backed out and it says oldest candidate.
Ever
Right, and for this election cycle Biden won’t be a candidate but Trump will. Trump is now an older candidate than Biden was when he was a candidate.
See If everyone just was able to give a clear and consice, non bullshittery and non-assholish answer like you, the world would be so much better. Thank you, legitimately.
So, as I understand with all these comments, they’re only candidates if they appear on the ballot on election day? Regardless if they ran and then dropped out?
They are candidates for president when they are nominated by their party. Trump was last week, Biden never was this election cycle.
That would be correct. The debate and everything up to the DNC has been pure punditry. He was not an official candidate.
I am confused if they aren’t candidates until they appear on the ballot. Then what do we call them in the meantime?
You’re confused because they don’t know what they’re talking about.
Nominees are the candidates selected by their party. Candidates are those who are campaigning for a position. Neither term is conferred by actually appearing on the ballot (a nominee can drop out before the election), but being officially nominated by their party is how they will get on the ballot.
Someone said in another comment that Biden dropped before he was officially nominated, so technically, he was more like a candidate to be a candidate if I get it right
How was your 48-hour nap?
Biden stepped down before getting the official nomination. Trump was nominated by his party last week. That makes Trump officially the oldest candidate nominated by a political party.
You are confusing the term candidate and nominee.
Both Biden and Trump were candidates. Trump is now the Republican nominee, Biden was the presumptive Democrat nominee.
Jesus, I just realized there’s only 4 years between them. They should both be retired, not running for second terms as president.
this one does require a “small” amount of “critical thinking”
He’s not a candidate in this election, and Trump is older now than Biden was during the last election.
Still says ever, although op points out that he wasn’t officially nominated, but hell I’m a candidate for president if I say so because I have said i was and I meet the minimum requirements
I don’t think you meet minimum requirements for a lot of things.
For those who struggle with math, that means that Biden is less than 4 years older than trump. The people criticizing Biden’s age and not trump’s as well never actually gave a shit about Biden’s age. Look forward to those same people making up bullshit reasons that Harris is less capable than trump. They know they’re full of shit, but it’s not about making sense, it’s about trying to obfuscate what’s pretty clear so that independents and undecideds give up, get frustrated, get confused, and/or get demotivated so that they either stay home or vote 3rd party. There are only two viable parties in this bullshit first past the post system; one of them wants Project 2025 and one of them doesn’t. Look at bullet points for what that is and then get your ass to the polls. It’s that simple. The only people trying to convince you that it’s not that simple are the ones who don’t want you to look at those bullet points because it’s pretty obvious whether most people are for or against that playbook. It’s damning.
The people criticizing Biden’s age and not trump’s as well never actually gave a shit about Biden’s age.
You’re true about a lot of us, just not in the way you’re implying: I and a lot of others objected to his diminished capacity rather than his age itself.
Berne’s a little over en year older than Biden and sharper than people two decades younger.
Nancy Pelosi is a year or two older still, and not showing any he near as stark signs of decline as Biden is.
Come to think of it, the media harped on and on about Bernie’s age in both the 2016 and 2020 primaries without ever mentioning the health of Hillary or Biden. Did you come to Bernie’s defense in 2020 since he’s in better health than both, heart stent and all, and less than a year older than Biden?
Look forward to those same people making up bullshit reasons that Harris is less capable than trump
Nobody ever said less capable than Trump. There’s several orders of magnitude between “not fit” and “as unfit as Trump”. That Biden was behind in spite of being a much less awful candidate and president was down to Trump’s religious cult as well as media gaslighting.
Personally, I’m no fan of Kamala but I believe that, unlike Biden, she’ll beat Trump if nominated, so you won’t hear me calling for her ouster like I did for the one who was literally incapable of doing the job.
Btw, notice how my comment is much more easily readable than your wall of text in spite of being of similar length?
Breaking up your points into paragraphs takes literally a few seconds and improves the legibility of any long comment immensity.
Nobody ever said less capable than Trump.
one nit to pick: i assure you, a lot of people harping on about biden’s ‘mental decline’ do in fact think trump is more capable, or at the very least are happy to claim to believe so. you’re clearly not one of them, but they exist in droves.
and if bernie had been elected, i suspect they’d make the same claims regardless of evidence to the contrary.
Yes, Biden clearly showed signs of losing his mental acuity. I didn’t really believe it until I saw it in the past couple of months. But a lot of conservatives weren’t really articulating acuity, they were saying he was too old.
Age in general is a concern to me as well because these old fucks don’t understand how different the world is now compared with 30-50 years ago. Wealth is also a concern to me because wealthy, privileged people haven’t struggled like average Americans have and/or do. Congress needs more people like Katie Porter who understand what it’s like to make difficult home finance decisions and be thankful that there’s even any semblance of choice involved.
Yes, I was fully on board with Sanders in 2016 and 2020. I also liked Warren. One day in the future, maybe Buttigieg or Jeffries. It’s exciting to speculate on all of the rising, younger Democratic stars.
I have my issues with Kamala Harris, but I think that she’s probably the best person to run against trump in 2024 especially with only 3.5 months (which sounds like plenty of time to pick anybody to me, but I’m not qualified to assess that). She’s not my favorite, but I’m more excited about her than I would’ve been for Biden.
My only real concerns for Harris running are what the media spoonfeeds to the gullible masses and what the October surprise will be this time. There’s a part of me that wishes Biden would resign just to take away the talking point of “trump has been president and she hasn’t; is she capable of running the country?” Plus we would already have had a couple months of a woman running the country before the election, so people could see that that’s not an actual thing to be concerned about.
First of all vote.
Second of all, I’m sick of this fall in line and do what we say bullshit.
Fuck you!
I will do what I want and if it happens to fall in line with what you tell me to then you’re lucky I’m even still going to do it.
Fucking authoritarian bullshit is supposed to be on their side
Please dont vote. I have a good guess where that vote would go
To Harris, just like I said it would
“Hey, the other guys are fascist, so if you don’t like fascism, you probably should vote against them”
REEEE YOU’RE A FASCIST FOR EVEN MENTIONING THAT MAYBE PEOPLE SHOULD VOTE A CERTAIN WAY
Fun fact: all fascists are authoritarian, but not all who are authoritarian are fascists.
The other commenter rightly called your condescendingly controlling behavior based on adherence to authority authoritarian without calling you a fascist.
You may want to check who replied when bud
Huh? You’re saying that the timing of his reply is somehow germane to whether or not telling people what to do is authoritarian behavior?
Btw, just for the record, I don’t believe in not voting and will hold my nose and vote for the lesser evil when necessary. That’s not my problem with your comments.
My problem is you pretty much ORDERING people to follow the example of you and me rather than advocating for it without authoritarian language.
I never said to fall in line. I said to look up bullet points on what Project 2025 is, look up who is for and who is against it, and get to the polls. I didn’t even say who to vote for. Everybody voting will result in the will of the people, and as somebody who likes having a democracy, that’s what I’m advocating for. I have my own opinions about which party is more pro democracy, and it’s probably pretty obvious to anybody who is paying attention to politics, but I was intentionally vague so that people can come to their own conclusions based on “doing their own research”.
But I guess for you, telling people to inform themselves and vote based on factual information makes me an authoritarian. Cool.
