Because you now did it to yourself.

      • @cdf12345@lemm.ee
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        Most of us can, and are also stunned by the dunbass other half of the population

        • Tagger
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          *Slightly less than half most of us can, and are stunned by the dumbass other half of the population FTFY

        • @rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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          You could be smart enough to say “fuck you” to the mainstream Dem candidates early in the campaign.

          The dumbass other half fears “the establishment” to the degree of going to dotards, coachfuckers and antivaxxers. Removing “the establishment” from your side could make them fear those more.

          So the part about dumb, dumb motherfuckers can be arguably addressed to almost all of you, my cowboy friends.

          Especially those saying that “the perfect is the enemy of the good” and people should vote for Harris instead of someone like Bernie or someone like Larry Lessig or who not.

            • @rottingleaf@lemmy.world
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              -110 months ago
              1. I’m not an American voter.

              2. My bullshit before the election usually involved saying that you still have to vote for Harris.

              3. I’d say the media bullshit about the support of candidates, that communicated the wrong picture to Americans deciding whether to vote, has contributed much more than anything I ever wrote.

              4. No reason to panic. It’s just 4 more years, and then another election. Usually when someone promises you massacres and other bad things, you believe them, but not in this case - you’ve elected people who’ve never followed up on their promises.

              5. I live in Russia, so you had it coming for the older disingenuous bullshit about Russia being “just an imperfect democracy” and Putin being better than some imagined unholy alliance of communists and neo-Nazis.

  • @Thrillhouse@lemmy.world
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    “Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

    That word is “Nazi.” Nobody cares about their motives any more.

    They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?”

    • @InverseParallax@lemmy.world
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      History furnishes us with innumerable instances that prove this law. It shows, with a startling clarity, that whenever Aryans have mingled their blood with that of an inferior race the result has been the downfall of the people who were the standard-bearers of a higher culture. In North America, where the population is prevalently Teutonic, and where those elements intermingled with the inferior race only to a very small degree, we have a quality of mankind and a civilization which are different from those of Central and South America. In these latter countries the immigrants–who mainly belonged to the Latin races–mated with the aborigines, sometimes to a very large extent indeed. In this case we have a clear and decisive example of the effect produced by the mixture of races. But in North America the Teutonic element, which has kept its racial stock pure and did not mix it with any other racial stock, has come to dominate the American Continent and will remain master of it as long as that element does not fall a victim to the habit of adulterating its blood.

      https://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200601.txt - Main Kampf

      The confederate states and their Jim Crow policies inspired Hitler. and black GIs came home from liberating Europe to be lynched for being “uppity”.

  • JaggedRobotPubes
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    Are you kidding? Watching it happen in real time, it makes less sense than it ever did.

    • NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ
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      I can tell you right now that isn’t the case. Proof: be a woman and join any CoD lobby.

      • @leadore@lemmy.world
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        Tell me that what isn’t the case? And what’s the meaning of CoD? I can’t tell if you’re agreeing or disagreeing.

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          CoD is the common abbreviation for the first-person shooter Call of Duty, and they’re definitely agreeing with you. Multiplayer lobbies for Call of Duty are notoriously toxic and bigoted.

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    It doesn’t matter.

    Europeans know the history of fascism much, much better than Americans do and they’re electing right-wing leaders too.

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      Which is always a very scary part. Especially over here, people should know better as they have first-hand experience (as a society at least). Seems it’s too far past already or something. 😔

  • @hdnsmbt@lemmy.world
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    Yeah, but it was never between Hitler and a woman! Yanks hate nothing more than women, so what did you expect?

    • @Aiastarei@lemmy.world
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      Don’t play dumb, she was unpopular with the left and did nothing to help with it. “Eat it up because otherwise it’s trump” doesn’t get you votes.

      • @hdnsmbt@lemmy.world
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        Are you serious? She had ten times as many policy proposals than Trump. She’s not unpopular, she’s a woman.

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    Well the entire multiplatform astroturfing campaign from people who call themselves leftists worked! Democrats stayed home instead of voting.

    Now Palestine will be completely flattened with 0 resistance at all, and redoubled support and bombs for Israel! Way to go! You really showed your support for Palestine by helping this happen!

    They will probably come back saying “it wasn’t our fault, we just pointed out the truth” while they shouted that a vote for Harris was a vote for genocide [so don’t vote for harris] from every platform that they used.

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      Most of the leftists I know voted for Kamala.

      And I love how Democrats’ first move after losing is to blame said leftists. We were the only ones calling out the bad moves of Kamala’s campaign from the beginning and warning what might happen if she didn’t adopt a Walz ticket (or mostly a Walz ticket).

      Democrats did this to themselves. It’s the reason why they kept supporting a corpse of a candidate with Joe Biden for so long until the first presidential debate, and it’s also the reason why Hillary was picked over Bernie in 2016 at the DNC.

      Leftists weren’t the issue. Democrats’ own willingness to ignore what was happening right in front of them was the issue.

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      So fucking predictable.

      Remember when Biden stepped down? Do you remember how unpopular he was and the massive wave of hope and support for Kamala that showed itself? Well, what the fuck did you think was gonna happen when Kamala glued herself to Biden, and tried to appeal to center right voters? They refuse to make compromises with the left, try to appeal to the center-right, and then blame the left for not voting for them; classic center/lib playbook, the same thing happens in Portugal, same thing happened in 2016 USA elections.

      I thought that Democrats would win DESPITE the absolute dog shit campaign, given everything about Trump, but it was still an absolute dog shit campaign by people who claimed this was the most important election of people’s lives, but then dug their hills in ideologically and refused to compromise with people on their left.

      If the situation wasn’t so dire, it would be hilarious to see the double think by Dem voters in this thread:

      • “How can Rep voters not hold Trump accountable despite everything he’s done!”

      • “It’s not the Dems fault that they lost, despite trying to appeal to the center-right instead of the left; it’s never their fault! It’s the leftists fault for not voting Dem! Kamala did nothing wrong!”

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        Ask yourself what do you think is going to happen next election? Answer: The Dems are going to go hard center. If the left doesn’t show up after Biden did green energy, IRA, student debt relief, non-compete clauses being banned via FTC, etc, AND to prevent a literal Hitler quoting fascist getting in, then the left either will literally never show up, or doesn’t exist. The left is done. No one is going to run a left platform for fucking decades. Because the left never shows up, or doesn’t exist.

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          My excuse? Firstly, I’m from Europe, I can’t vote in American elections; secondly, I’m replying to people making excuses for why Kamala lost, perhaps you should direct your comment at them.

          The ones who need to excuse themselves, in order, are: Republicans; their voters; and finally the Dems for not having primaries (twice), not running a winnable campaign, and trying to appeal to the center-right.

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            Drag doesn’t mean your excuse for not voting. Drag means your excuse for justifying other people’s decision not to vote. They elected a fascist and you’re defending them. There is no excuse.

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              Blame the Democratic Party for not winning their vote in “the most important election of our lifetimes” and instead trying to appeal to the center right.

              To sort of reiterate the point in my original comment, let me ask you two questions. You don’t have to give me the answers, but at least ponder them internally:

              1. What’s your opinion on people who voted for Trump despite everything he’s done, and try to blame all their problems on immigrants and leftists?

              2. Why do you refuse to hold the Dems accountable for their campaign and the policies they run on, and keep trying to throw the blame on other people?

              • Dragon Rider (drag)
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                Blame isn’t finite resource. Blame is infinite. Harris deserves all the blame. The voters also deserve all the blame. And people like you who demotivated the voters also deserve all the blame. You are all 100% responsible. And drag still doesn’t care about any of the excuses you’ve continued to give.

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                  And people like you who demotivated the voters also deserve all the blame.

                  When you make assumptions, you make an ass of you and me both. Here’s the last comment I made on the electoral race, July 25th, after Biden stepped down.

                  I agree with you, but Kamala will probably still be the most left leaning president the USA ever had by quite a bit (AFAIK), and has a good chance to start shifting the Overton Window; if only by showing the Democratic Party that choosing more left leaning candidates actually gives them better chances of winning.

                  Since then, I haven’t said anything about it. But sure, if it makes you feel better, just keep on throwing blame everywhere except where it lies, like a monkey throwing feces everywhere. I don’t have to excuse anything.

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      Honest question: Why blame the voters? Why not blame Harris for refusing to do the obviously correct, ethical even moral thing regarding Gaza?

      The democrats are so impossibly spineless that they wait for polls and focus groups for their talking points instead of standing up for their principles (if they really exist).

      Dems spent the entire campaign trying to compromise with and convince right wingers acting in bad faith instead of just working towards progressive policies. They once and again let the GOP set the tone for every conversation.

      The Dem’s attitude towards the genocide in Gaza is just a piece of evidence that shows their way of thinking: the dog race and politicking is more important that doing the right thing.

      So stop blaming the voters and take a deep look into your own values and principles because the nation being obliterated right now in the middle east and the people who stand for them even at great cost to themselves are definitely not to blame.

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        Honest question: Why blame the voters? Why not blame Harris for refusing to do the obviously correct, ethical even moral thing regarding Gaza?

        Because it’s only one issue out of many that need to be addressed (I didn’t say fixed because IMHO the IDF are doing pretty good work eradicating Hamas, all things considered).

        You guys need to take care of your housing, healthcare, gerrymandering, public transport, student loans, separation of religion and government and a truckload of other things that I don’t think Trump has any interest in improving. And you can bet your bottom dollar that Trump won’t be any “better” in regards to the situation in Gaza and the rest of the middle east.

        So the voters that didn’t vote Harris purely because of the Gaza issue are to blame for their short sightedness.

    • @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Well the entire multiplatform astroturfing campaign from people who call themselves leftists worked! Democrats stayed home instead of voting.

      Yup. I spent the last month or so tagging them, and I have not seen a single one today.

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        Look around. Technocrit is already trying to ragebait, TheOubliette was gloating in another thread, and a bunch of other .ml shitheads are showing up to this thread now. Fucking disgusting, deplorable individuals.

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    Women: he told you he’s taking your rights away and is already letting you die in hospital waiting rooms

    Tradesman: he told you overtime and unions are gone

    Veterans: he told you he hates you, pissed all over the sanctity of Arlington and is gutting the VA

    Hispanics: he told you you and yours are getting deported and doesn’t care if you’re legal or not

    Those on social security, Medicare, Medicaid or ACA: he told you he’s cutting/gutting these

    Anyone with ties to Palestine: he told you he’s going to help Israel finish the job

    • @soylentgreenenergy@lemmy.world
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      😳 Are you out of your mind? Where in the world did you hear these things from? Lord, i mean if ANY of that were true; id be right there with ya. But those are the most left-field claims Ive ever heard and are not based on reality.

  • @JonsJava@lemmy.world
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    Fuck, this his hard. As a father of a gay child, and a trans child, our immediate plans are passports.

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    Is it because woman? Like holy shit, Biden was an old fuck and still won last time. Hillary didn’t win. Wtf, is it really because woman!?

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      Partly. The DNC forcing Harris to adopt conservative talking points / abandon the Tim Walz progressive policies was also a massive blow to her base. You can’t spend 8 years comparing Republicans to Nazis and then promise to put them on your cabinet and to continue their racist border policy. The DNC forced Harris to listen to donors over voters and this is the end result

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    So, place your bets! What’s going to be that one announcement that suddenly makes your neighbours go all quiet?

    • Repeal of the 19th amendment
    • Mandatory military service
    • Military sent to Ukraine
    • Military sent to Gaza
    • Additional protections to police
    • The pardon of all January 6th rioters
    • The relaxation of maximum presidential terms
    • Repeal of Affordable Care Act
    • Repeal of Social Security
    • Increase in taxes of lowest and middle incomes
    • Reduction in the minimum wage
    • Shutdown of major news outlets of “reporting lies”
    • Ban of reporting “bad news”
    • New ability to farmers to hire for no wage
    • New protections to reject hiring/customers/schooling based on colour
    • Collapse of NOAA
    • Atheists targeted as terrorists
    • Democrats imprisoned for Socialist ties
    • Mysterious disappearances of democrats
    • Random deportation of American citizens for being first/second generation
    • Removal of all laws related to carbon output

    Yes, some of these are fearmongering but he’s made all sorts of promises and debts are due! The sky is the limit!

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      If you think any or all of these is going to finally get a Trump supporter to lose faith, then you failed to learn the lesson that 2016 should’ve taught you, and yesterday should’ve reminded you of - they will never lose faith. He could tell them to literally kill their own kids and they’d just say “Oh, like what God told Abraham! I’ll get right on it, my Lord!”

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      You forgot: removal of legal protections for workers AND reduce minimum age for working

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    The dem message of “we won’t do better but the other guy will do worse” failed. It was a bad message and it lost them the election against a terrible candidate. Voters need to be motivated to vote and that message isn’t motivating enough

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    Because the candidate running against Hitler was so terrible that there was no enthousiasm left to stop Hitler?