• The Pantser
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    8322 days ago

    If you are an Indiana parent and allow your child to work a job that follows the new rules and doesn’t have the kids best interest in mind then you are a bad parent. Educate your kids about what the job should be offering and you as the parent can restrict their hours.

    • @Formfiller@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      This is what happens when families can’t make ends meet. It’s desperation not lack of love that causes this. It’s by design. You’re going to see this more and more as human rights are stripped from the working class

    • @pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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      8422 days ago

      Educate your kids about what the job should be offering and you as the parent can restrict their hours.

      Sure, but the government taking away abortion rights and forcing these unqualified people to be parents while forcing these kids to work, sure sounds like they’re creating a slave class.

    • @GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works
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      1721 days ago

      Theres parents that snatch anything their teen kids make as “rent” then kick them out at 18 with nothing. They even try to make them pay back the cost of raising them.

    • @rocket_dragon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1722 days ago

      Indiana parents are gonna accuse you of being a filthy communist if they catch you talking about workers rights like that.

      The CEO needs his workers to be young, cheap, and completely subservient if he wants to buy that brand new fourth backup superyacht.

  • halyk.the.red
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    7321 days ago

    There’s gunna be some kids from some desperate situations, just trying to make money for their destitute families for any number of reasons.

    The 14 year old, overworked and tired, will be called into the managers office.

    “We’ve noticed you’ve been working really hard. You know, there’s a promotion on offer. Comes with a substantial pay increase, might be able to help out mom and dad.” The manager walks around behind them.

    “We have lots of competition here, though.” The door locks, the child feels hands on their shoulders.

    “We need to see what you’re willing to do to come out ahead.”

    If situations like this happens with adults, it will absolutely happen with children.

  • @ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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    6122 days ago

    Hoosier here. We’re trying to fix it. But guess which party has had a supermajority in state government for decades?

    • @some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
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      2522 days ago

      I read about a (right wing, religious) cult leader who said that menstruation is the signal that a female is ready for breeding. You’re not at all wrong.

      • Diplomjodler
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        1422 days ago

        If it was good enough for the bronze age Israelites, it’s good enough for us!

  • @jumjummy@lemmy.world
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    1821 days ago

    What’s depressing is that I initially read this as “India is a great place to hire child labor”, thought damn that sucks, then realized it said “Indiana”. Not even surprised anymore tbh.

  • @niktemadur@lemmy.world
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    1721 days ago

    They sink and sink and sink and STILL refuse to vote in their best interests.
    The lazier and angrier, the more ignorant they seem to become, and the easier it is to exploit them for life, they have less value as individuals, work MORE and LONGER for less and less, sliding back to the Middle Ages and they are the stupid, ignorant, disposable peasants.

  • @testfactor@lemmy.world
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    -2021 days ago

    I think teenagers having a first job in highschool is an important milestone that we should encourage.

    There should clearly be protections in place. I’m not arguing otherwise. But I don’t get this sentiment of it being tantamount to child abuse to let a 16yo get a job at their local movie theater after school to earn some extra pocket change.

    • @JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee
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      1421 days ago

      I don’t see that argument being made. The changes talked about in this post is them removing protections that are reasonable.

      • @testfactor@lemmy.world
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        -221 days ago

        I mean, the comment literally right above mine is about how if we let kids work then they’re gonna be molested by their bosses. That has nothing to do with any of the restrictions being rolled back.

        And look, I’m not campaigning against any of the protections that got rolled back. I think it’s bad they did, and would be totally for them being reinstated. 1000%.

        And maybe I’m just off base. I feel like I have seen a lot of “children shouldn’t be allowed to get jobs” rhetoric of late in this context. But it’s entirely possible that most people are totally on board with 16yo’s having jobs, and what I’m seeing is just a vocal minority.

    • @SkyezOpen@lemmy.world
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      921 days ago

      That’s what work permits are for you dingus. I got my first job at 15 and plenty of protections were still in place. This only lets children be exploited and nothing else.

    • @CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee
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      821 days ago

      Children should not have to work to support their families. That is a specific situation that was being called out not just a teen working at McDonalds to have some spending money.

      • @testfactor@lemmy.world
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        021 days ago

        I agree. Children shouldn’t have to work to support their families.

        None of the regulations that were stripped away have anything to do with that though, as far as I can tell.

        So that problem exists in any world where we let kids work at McDonald’s for some spending money.

    • @bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net
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      721 days ago

      You are an idiot if you think that children won’t be exploited. There needs to be specific work her3 restrictions for this position to be anywhere near reasonable. Did you look up if there are work hour restrictions? Did you look up anything? If not shut up and let adults talk.

      • @testfactor@lemmy.world
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        -121 days ago

        My brother in Christ, I literally say in the comment you replied to that all of the protections that were rolled back (including all the ones you just mentioned) are important, and that it’s a bad thing they were removed.

        Who are you even arguing against?

    • @orcrist@lemm.ee
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      521 days ago

      What you’ve just done is called a red herring argument. You made up a position that nobody actually holds and then refuted it.

      Please browse the comment section. I don’t think you’ll see anyone saying that high school students should never be allowed to have jobs.

    • @CentauriBeau@lemm.ee
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      321 days ago

      I think you’re missing some key components of the law they passed. This isn’t the after school job we had as teens when it’s not bound to only after school hours, overnight work, etc.

      • @testfactor@lemmy.world
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        021 days ago

        I should have been more clear I suppose. I support all of the restrictions that were in place, and I think it’s bad they were rolled back.

        My response wasn’t intended to say the changes were bad, but was rather in response to a general sentiment that I was seeing in the comment section. Both on this post and others when the topic of minors in the work force comes up.