• UnfortunateShort
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    01 year ago

    I don’t even get why they care. Can’t you just inform users once, then drop support and still collect their data?

  • @Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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    01 year ago

    Someone should let Microsoft know that they only have 18 months left to put out an OS that isn’t a complete dumpster fire. Right now, I would take Vista over 11.

    • FaceDeer
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      Did you read the article? The popup warns users about it, yes. It’s a good thing to let them know there won’t be more security updates for their OS.

        • FaceDeer
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          How is that Microsoft’s fault? Should they be forcing users to care, somehow? The warning is already getting people angry as it is.

        • @Sprawlie@lemmy.world
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          You would be amazed.

          At work we provide popup notifications for a week when a users password is close to expiring

          They still miss it and need to call helpdesk

    • @ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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      You better believe they are. I get it about every other month, and my laptop doesn’t meet those requirements.

  • Snot Flickerman
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    I have never received one of these screens with this One Neat Trick:

    I disabled the TPM in UEFI settings.

    Beautiful.

      • @EngineerGaming@feddit.nl
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        I use full-disk encryption on my Debian, and I honestly don’t see what’s wrong with entering your passphrase on boot.

      • voxel
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        also windows 10 requires tpm for passkeys

    • @rdri@lemmy.world
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      It’s cool while it works. But these options are not going to be provided forever in newer hardware. Recent example I saw is the absense of AHCI option in new laptops (you now need additional drivers just to reinstall Windows manually). We need to keep developing software solutions to software problems.

    • paraphrand
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      Aww your poor wittle pc is unhealthy! It just needs some rest and some fluids.

    • @frogmint@beehaw.org
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      Aren’t these screens from the article specifically for unsupported devices, like those without TPM?

    • @melpomenesclevage@lemm.ee
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      In the 90s this was hacker shit. You’d do this shit to, like, break into the pentagon or something.

      Fucking cringe cyberpunk; everybody’s a hacker, because theres no other way to see your fucking calendar.

    • @nao@sh.itjust.works
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      01 year ago

      Sounds like a good idea to disable a security feature to not be reminded of the EOL of the software you’re using /s

    • @Mane25@feddit.uk
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      Is it not disgraceful that you have to use a trick so some third party company doesn’t install software you don’t want on your hardware? I think that’s appalling!

  • @Redx@lemmy.world
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    I took the free upgrade. Then after a bit I updated my bios and it killed my license. Microsoft wouldn’t fix it and said I changed my hardware so there was nothing they could do. Still pissed off about that.

    • NaN
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      That’s crazy. Not a Microsoft fanboy, but I’ve had issues like that after an actual board swap and they still have made it right (and technically they were in the right to disallow it), and they’ve fixed issues with transferring around my retail license that I’ve had since like Windows 7 because by now it’s been activated a bunch of times. Enshittification.

    • @Moonrise2473@feddit.it
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      01 year ago

      There’s a mass grave way to get a new digital license from Microsoft 😉

      Btw when I changed my motherboard and Windows deactivated, I called them and told them “it broke, then I replaced only the motherboard” (actually was an hardware upgrade) and they give the the phone activation codes. But that was during the Win7 era

  • This might be a bit off topic but I hate how you can’t dismiss these kind of messages and be done with them, instead you have confirmation or remind me later. They just keep pestering you and I find that insulting. The same thing with Google play pass whenever I install something, that damn popup keeps coming back.

  • @Asafum@feddit.nl
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    Pretty much the only thing I use my PC for is gaming so it really sucks that I can’t just dump them for Linux…

    I don’t want some games. I don’t want to have something I’ve been hyped about be out of reach for God knows how long just because Linux support is crap as the market share is so low, but man do i hate Microsoft…

    • @Nanabaz2@lemmy.world
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      Beside we-know-which games that use a root-kit anti-cheat, which games you think doesn’t work on Linux or work terribly or straight out not work on Linux on first-day?

      I don’t play those and I don’t own them on Steam. Out of 600+ games I own on Steam, everything literally run without me touch my terminal once.

      Unless you don’t think proton is good, then you might be mistaken somewhere. It’s straight magic

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        To be honest I just see people commenting here and there that xyz game didn’t work for them and they have to jump through a bunch of hoops for what does work that I just write Linux off for now.

        That and I tend to like to check out early access games (cough star citizen cough) so I just dont want to limit myself just to give Mi€ro$oft the finger.

        Also, (see early access comment) I’m kind of impatient so even though I’m pretty capable, the last thing I want to do is have to be an IT guy for my PC every time something doesn’t work lol windows is pretty good in that respect.

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          01 year ago

          Suggestion: dual boot. Use Linux unless some game you want to play doesn’t work (yet).

    • @Zerush@lemmy.ml
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      I love The Dark Mod, a great envolving game at the level of commercial ones, it’s 100% free with a great community and works fine in Windows, Linux and Mac. A game for Years with currently more than 170 community made missions, more every few month.

    • @Crozekiel@lemmy.zip
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      Gaming on Linux is really not as bad as all that unless you play a lot of games with invasive anti-cheat; which honestly, even if you never try Linux and stick to windows, I’d recommend avoiding or at least having a separate windows install for. I’m not a fan of having to install a rootkit on my computer that constantly monitors everything I do just to prove to some mega-corp I’m an honest player (especially considering how poorly even those work to stop cheaters).

      I’d highly recommend anyone upset with microsoft to at least setup dual boot with one of the popular gaming specific Linux distos and trying it out. Even if you did a few years ago, it has really come a long way in the last few years.

    • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      Because of proton it’s not perfect but it’s damn close these days. And that means that linux support is rapidly increasing with linux marketshare. And when all else fails, I keep a windows partition just in case

  • @Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee
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    01 year ago

    “We tried asking. We tried begging. We tried bullying. We even tried tricking people into upgrading. We tried everything short of actually making a usable OS!”

    • @tetris11@lemmy.ml
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      “Please people, please… just give us your money. We might leave you alone after that. For a while.”

    • @jkrtn@lemmy.ml
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      I understand how it is possible for an OS to interrupt one’s use of one’s own computer to beg for money or to install spyware. I don’t understand how such an OS would still have users.

      • @floofloof@lemmy.ca
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        If I didn’t have to use it for work, and if Ableton Live made a Linux version, I’d never use Windows again. Every single activity is interrupted by messages that are effectively adverts for things you’re not interested in. The Start menu still doesn’t work after 29 years of development. Searching for a file is ridiculously slow and doesn’t find the file. Everything else is also slow, all the time. I have given up trying to arrange my desktop icons because they always go back to the same position they’ve been stuck in for months. All the applications hang, and the whole system has frequent unresponsive moments where God knows what it’s doing but it’s nothing I asked for. I dual boot into Linux and it feels like an oasis of peace.

        • @Valmond@lemmy.world
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          Check out “everything” for windows, it finds files, all files, instantly. And it’s free.

          If I worked at Microsoft, on windows, I’d be so ashamed I wouldn’t tell.

          • @floofloof@lemmy.ca
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            01 year ago

            I use Everything. It is a thousand times more useful than Windows’s file search, even though it only indexes filenames, not file contents.

        • @jkrtn@lemmy.ml
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          Oh yeah, sorry, didn’t mean to rag on people that have to work with it. I think we’re all frustrated that it’s still so pervasive even though it gets worse every year.

    • @Rainman@feddit.de
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      Epic will continue to suck ass and chances are that they will get even worse some day. Don’t let yourself be chained to Microsoft because of Epic. I know it’s hard to let beloved games go, but there are so many other titles of better companies than epic that deserve your attention.

  • Win 11 will eventually replace win 10, just as win10 replaced win7, they are just desperate to reach their target before releasing windows 12.

    • @Anticorp@lemmy.world
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      Windows 10 was the last Windows version for me. I’m done. I’m done with the spying, and the ads, and the hidden admin options spread across 5 different locations, and the registry, and the bugs, and the viruses, and just their whole shit show. Linux 4 lyfe.

      • @AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml
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        It’s just the spying for me. If it wasn’t for the spying and ads then I’d still be a Windows die-hard. If my OS was just an OS then I wouldn’t feel the need to switch to Linux

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          Yeah, the other things are just annoyances. But the ads and the spying are deal breakers for me. They’re our fucking computers, not Microsoft’s! They’ve got a lot of fucking nerve thinking they can just shove ads into our native OS. That’s literally how adware, which is classified as malware, has been classified for all of Windows history. But now they’re doing it themselves? Get fucked, Satya!